Today on the Salience podcast we’re diving deep into the complex world of health systems—and the concept of synergy. As demands on health systems grow, leaders are often caught in the tension between delivering day-to-day services and driving systemic change. So how do they balance it all?Joining us to unpack these challenges is Helena Harnick, co-founder and Program Executive Director at The Synergist. With a background spanning global corporations and a passion for collaborative innovation, Helena brings a unique lens to the conversation. She holds an international MBA from Iam, Leon in France, and a BA in English Literature from Williams College in the U.S.Whether you’re a health professional, policy thinker, or just curious about how complex systems can evolve, this episode has something for you.

In this episode of The Salience Podcast, we dive into the complex world of nutrition—where even the basics of what we should eat are hotly debated. From carnivore to vegan, low-fat to keto, the conflicting advice can be overwhelming, often driven by ideology or profit rather than science. The result? Declining health, rising chronic disease, and a society that still prefers quick fixes—like pills—over the simple (but not easy) work of eating real food.Our guest today is Dr. Jessica Turton. Jessica is a nutrition scientist and clinician with a PhD from the University of Sydney, where she researched low-carb diets for diabetes management. Now the Director of Ellipse Health, she helps people cut through the noise to address the root causes of their health struggles—whether it is metabolic disease, gut issues, or disordered eating.In this conversation, we explore flexible eating, eating for blood sugar control as well as a simple framework for choosing foods that actually nourish you. We also tackle bigger questions: Should governments prioritize personalized nutrition over one-size-fits-all guidelines? How can we teach kids to eat intuitively? And why is modern medicine so bad at addressing the foundations of health?

In this episode of the Salience Podcast, we explore health and the relationships between personal agency and systems. As a society, we under-invest in preventative health in favor of big pharma and a medical model that focuses too much on remedies. Many people would rather take a pill than make the effort to eat healthy whole food and move well.Our guest today is Dr. Anita Shankar from John Hopkins Department of International Health within the Bloomberg School of Public Health. Anita researches and develops behavioral interventions to foster personal agency and leadership in vulnerable populations. In this episode, we talk about some extraordinary examples of developing personal agency through training, and the impact that can have on even the most vulnerable and disempowered populations.

On this week’s Salience Podcast, we explore the benefits and pitfalls of role clarity through the lens of the Chief of Staff. A Chief of Staff is a relatively new addition to the C-Suite, with an express function to enable the rest of the C-suite to shine. Our guest is David Hesse, who until recently was Chief of Staff at Kitman Labs. David describes how a Chief of Staff can unblock bottle necks and enable faster decision making.

On this week’s Salience Podcast, we explore safety through the intersection of human factors and systems.Our guest is Gareth Lock, founder of The Human Diver and bestselling author of the book Under Pressure: diving deeper with human factors. Before becoming a safety educator with a focus on diving, Gareth had a 25-year career in the RAF.As he started diving more and more, Gareth recognized he could apply what he learned in the RAF to diving. In particular, he realised that safety and performance in diving operations is all about teamwork and learning from the successes and failures that occur as part of normal diving activities.In this episode, we talk about discipline, dissent and diving deeper into teamwork.

On todays episode, we will be discussing what it is like to support the transformation of a 100 year-old institution with close to 100,000 employees across different countries. With me today is my friend Ian Macdonald. On top of being an amazing person to work with, Ian has over 25 years of experience in areas spanning entrepreneurship, communication, leadership development and strategy. He also has several creative specialties such as advertising, photography and design. Ian is currently part of the People Management area at Itaú Bank in Brazil where he is Head of Applied Complexity in the internal Transformation Consultancy.Ian is also a bi-lingual executive coach, consultant and facilitator in complex adaptive systems. Based physically in Brazil he has worked with a wide range of individual students, governments and corporate organisations from varying sectors and sizes in Latin America, United States, Canada, Europe and the Middle East. Ian is a digital complex facilitation wizard, and also contributed to the design and implementation of the Itaú Complexity Lab where he now works.

In this episode, we will be discussing what it means to facilitate strategic dialogue to work on intractable problems. With me today is practitioner of strategic dialogic methods, Marco Valente. Marco is currently a Consultant and member of the executive team at Cultivating Leadership. In this role, he is working primarily as a coach with both individuals and teams, and as a facilitator of executive teams to help them make meaning of their most pressing challenges. He uses a complexity-informed lens to tackle these challenges more effectively, and to create better team cohesion and social capital. He has also worked on multi-stakeholder dialogues with a diverse range of partners: from municipality planners across Europe, to LGBTI communities worldwide, to nanotechnology scientists at Harvard, and more. He describes his work as providing teams with formats to improve their capacity to make sense and skilfully act on complex challenges. His work is informed by complexity theories, a decade of experience in facilitation, and over five years as a university lecturer in “Leading for Sustainability”.

On this week’s Salience Podcast, we explore anthropology, sensemaking and complexity.Our guest is Ellie Snowden. For those familiar with the Cynefin framework and its developer Dave Snowden, well Ellie is his daughter. Apart from an enormous requirement for personal resilience being Dave’s daughter, Ellie has developed her own deep competency in the field of anthro-complexity and sensemaking.Ellie leads the Cynefin company's work on health and healthcare with her experience of supporting centre members in their use of SenseMaker® and surrounding methods.In this episode, we talk about the importance of narratives in expanding our worldview and how surfacing multiple voices can help cultivate culture.

On this episode of the Salience Podcast, we turn our attention to the relationship between human factors, systems, and analysis of safety incidents and accidents. As you might imagine, a company with a name like Frontline Mind is intimately involved with frontline action. The agencies and people we specialize in work in fast-paced, complex, and at times high-risk environments. Inevitably, there are near misses, incidents and accidents. How we best learn from these is not straightforward. In fact, when we work with agencies for the first time, we find that most after-action reviews or operational or cold debriefs have made matters worse. Partly, this is because there is an unrealistic focus on events that emerge and are only visible in hindsight. This is partly because there is a strong focus on errors and what went wrong. We can see and hear this bias in a deficit-based language where there is a focus on what went wrong. Now, I'm not a fan of an exclusive focus on what went well either. The danger of overdone positivity or staying in happy, clappy land is also unhelpful and is just as much of a concern as an obsession with what went wrong. So it's this use of language and the way we can direct attention that we are going to focus on today. And to help us unpack, how we can learn from near misses, incidents and accidents without falling into a judgmental binary of good and bad. we are joined by Dr. Steven Shorrock from Eurocontrol, where he works to support aviation throughout Europe with human factors, applied psychology and systems thinking and practice. Steven is a chartered psychologist and human factor specialist. He is editor in-chief of Hindsight Magazine and adjunct associate professor at the University of the Sunshine Coast Center for Human Factors and Sociotechnical Systems.

On this episode of the Salience Podcast we return to cross-domain mapping, exploring how tactical leadership and decision-making taught in the military can be applied to start-up and scale-up challenges for business and as a way to accelerate change in frontline agencies. One of the biggest challenges for military-trained leaders is adapting to the radically different power structure of civilian organisations. For starters, command and control just doesn't work the same way.I often see veterans appointed to civilian leadership roles and the civies just don't respond at all well to being told. I've seen the opposite where veterans really do lead adaptively using a range of leadership approaches that suit the situation. So today I want to tease apart the difference that makes a difference in effective leadership and decision making through that military lens. Today's guest is Ben Ford from Mission Control.Ben is a former Royal Marine and uses what he learned in the Defence Force to help veteran entrepreneurs develop a competitive advantage in business. I first came across Ben through LinkedIn where I noticed his posts about OODA, John Boyd's Observe, Orient, Decide, Act decision-making framework and how to apply that process in tech.

On This episode of the Salience Podcast, we explore risk and decision-making and consider what we can learn from fatal mistakes. In a number of our interviews, we have stressed the importance of safe to fail experimentation. This is of course the preferred way to learn. However, we can also learn from critical incidents that are not fatal to us. In today's interview we discuss one such profound experience that inspires me to remember some important aspects of human factors in decision making. Today's guest is Ken Wylie. Ken is a mounting guide by training, although he is known globally as an author, an engaging public speaker, and through his company Archetypal, he is an advisory and human hazard management educator. In 2003, Ken survived an avalanche that resulted in fatal consequences for seven guided clients.In a very humble way, Ken acknowledges he was part of a professional team whose failure to communicate and work together with mutual respect resulted in the fatal avalanche. Ken has detailed the background to the tragedy in his best -selling book, Buried. I recently had the privilege of listening to Ken's story at an avalanche conference in New Zealand. There are many similarities with what we teach in Frontline Mind. So I was inspired to reach out to Ken to relay his story on the Salient's podcast and pass along some of the most important lessons to our listeners.

On This episode of the Salience Podcast, we return to our origins unpacking the patterns of behaviour of extreme high performers, learning what we can to apply in everyday life work and the rest of life.We are joined by Sara Stone. Sara is a professional sailor, and has sailed everything from dinghies to ocean racing yachts. She is currently in Barcelona preparing for the women's americas cup later this year.Our interest in Sara though is as much about her high level sailing as work experience - in a former life Sara was an epidemiologist and emergency response professional.So today I want to explore the similarities and differences between different facets of Sara’s experiences

On this episode of the Salience Podcast , we are exploring feedback and feedforward in the complex space of policing and investigations. We are joined in this episode by Lou Hayes, who is a 26-year veteran Police Officer & Detective for a suburban Chicago police department. Some of his assignments have included: Patrol, Field Training Officer, Criminal Investigations, Firearms & Tactics Training Unit, Crisis Intervention Team, and SWAT. His current roles are with a regional homicide unit, with a passion for multi-agency intelligence & technology.Lou has also developed and pioneered The Illinois Model - a non-linear, problem-solving process for police officers. The model prioritizes life, Constitutional objectives, incident strategy, and tactics in rapidly changing and high-stakes circumstances. Since its development, The Illinois Model has expanded greatly to serve as a pathway to human and organizational adaptability.We chat with Lou about and feedforward loops, and how these are important when training teams and conducting investigations.

In episode 9 season 3 of the Salience Podcast with Tom Kerwin, we explore feedback and feedforward in the context of design and innovation. Tom has 25 years of experience as a leader in design, research and innovation. He’s co-founded two successful startups and worked both agency-side and in-house, coaching cross-functional teams to innovate. Tom is also the author of Innovation Tactics, the deck of cards from Pip Decks that’s packed with pragmatic methods for making things people want. Since running his first usability test in 1999, Tom has been obsessed with adaptive sense-making. To quote from Tom’s bio “how do we continuously make sense of the world so we can act more effectively in it?” And that’s really at the heart of feedback and feedback and what we are exploring in season two of the Salience Podcast.

On this episode of the Salient podcast, we journey into the world of mapping and explore the role of feedback and feedforward in navigating complexity. We are joined by Marcus Guest. Marcus is originally from the UK and is one of the small number of people actively developing adaptive strategy using Wardley maps.What's interesting about Marcus is his solid grounding in the science of complex adaptive systems. In his past life, Marcus worked in organisations in Europe and Asia, overseeing the rapid expansion of operations and as a strategy director in a leading consulting firm. In addition to the competitive use of Wardley maps, Marcus has a unique perspective on Eastern and Western approaches to strategy and complexity. Amongst all of these broad experiences

On this episode of The Salience Podcast, we journey into the world of superyachts to continue our explorations of feedback and feedforward. We are joined by Amanda Hewson-Beaver.Her story of adventure on the high seas reads like an inspirational novel. Amanda literally ran away to sea as a youngster, before sailing the 7-seas in everything from small dinghies to 200 ft super yachts.Join us as we unpack the importance of feedback and forward in preparation at the elite end of Sailing.

On The Salience Podcast this week, we continue our explorations of feedback and feedforward as a means of learning. In season 3 episode 6, we are joined by Joe Byerly. Joe has had a long career in the US Army; he’s an active duty Battalion Commander, was a non-resident fellow at the Modern War Institute at West Point, and has provided strategic advice on warfare. Joe is also the Founder of From the Green Notebook. In the Salience Podcast Joe talks about his learnings from all those great leaders he has interviewed, and the very concept of using a notebook to reflect on feedback and project into future action is both simple and effective.

On the Salience Podcast today, we are exploring feedback and feedforward in the complex space of international development. Joining us in this episode is Milica Begovic, the Head of Strategic Innovation at the United Nations Development ProgramMillie and her colleagues are pioneering new ways of doing development that build countries’ capacity to deliver change at scale. She has been involved in a number of bold initiatives such as the Accelerator Labs (which recently grew to 90 countries globally). And this on top of a number of ongoing activities at the corporate and the regional level. Today we will be learning more about what strategic innovation means, and the feedback and feedforward loops, as well as innovative monitoring, evaluation and learning approaches and critical competencies that are important for organisations who want to adopt this bold approach to social innovation and change that matters.We learn from UNDP’s decade-long journey of strategic innovation that has been tested and scaled across 51 countries, whilst prioritising local impact, and transforming the organisation to create the right conditions to support beneficial impact for all partners involved.

On this episode of the salience podcast, we continue to explore feedback and feedforward. Feedback is the flow of information about past events. It is the opportunity to review and learn from decisions and actions. Feedforward is the anticipatory preparation for future events, it is the opportunity to orient ahead of time and to set up to test assumptions and biases through observations in real-time as situations unfold. Both feedback and feedforward are central to taking a strategic approach to our endeavours, be that in business or those aspects of life that we prefer to not leave to chance, although living life as a random walk through curiosity space is a legitimate choice too. My guest today is JP Castlin. JP is a strategist, author and provocateur. Join us as we discuss how we can effectively use feedback and feedforward in the spectrum of approaches between orderly well-planned strategies, complex adaptive strategy, and what seem to be random walks through curiosity space.

On this episode of the salience podcast, we continue to explore feedback and feedforward. There are several different ways to create an effective feedback-feedforward loop, especially using different patterns of visualisation, with deliberate use of 1st, 2nd and 3rd person perspectives. As I started reaching out to various experts to interview for this season, I realised that no-one uses 1st, 2nd, and 3rd better than my co-author of our book Resilience by Design and guest today Mike Weeks. Mike and I co-founded Frontline Mind together in 2017, and grew the company until 2021, until Mike left America to move onto environmental projects in Indonesia and the Middle East and I continued with Frontline Mind.Before coaching, Mike was a professional freeclimber, where he pushed the boundaries of free soloing and hard bold climbs. I suspect that such risk taking, with deadly consequences for getting things wrong, redefines what most people consider to be risky. Join us today as we discuss anticipating risk and the benefits of using 1st, 2nd, and 3rd person perspectives and the use of feedback-feedforward loops when doing so.

On this episode of the salience podcast, we explore feedforward. A form of pre-emptive scenario testing and preparation to avoid events going wrong and to develop systemic resilience ahead of events going wrong. In a return to learning from military leadership, I am joined by retired Navy Commander, Brady Turnage. Brady had a 20-year aviation career that culminated as the Commanding Officer of a carrier-based jet squadron.Currently, Brady is an instructor at ‘The Program’ - a US veteran leadership development and team building company and he is a high school head lacrosse coach. Join us as we explore feedforward loops through the lens of military planning and lacrosse.

Today, on The Salience Podcast we begin Season 3 with an in depth exploration of feedback and feedforward. Feedback is the flow of information about past events. It is the opportunity to review and learn from decisions and actions.Feedforward is the anticipatory preparation for future events, it is the opportunity to orient ahead of time and to test assumptions and biases through observations in real-time as situations unfold. Our guest today is Murray Hopkins. Murray has over 35 years experience as a facilitator and coach in leadership development Working with individuals, teams and organisations through his business Curiosity Skilled the Cat.Today we will focus on personal feedback into feedforward and what many people regard as ‘difficult conversations’. We prefer to reframe such conversations to “coaching with curiosity”.

On this episode of The Salience Podcast, we conclude Season 2 with a deep dive into quitting. Our guest today is Annie Duke. Annie is a former world champion poker player and the best-selling author of Thinking in Bets, How to Decide, and her most recent book, Quit, the Power to Know When to Walk Away.Tune in as we discuss managing exit risk from sticky or downright deadly situations when attempts to Quit could have major or even fatal consequences.These are the sorts of choices that frontline workers often have to make, it’s the challenge of quitting crappy jobs or a bullying boss when we might have to accept a reduced salary and less favorable lifestyle, and it’s the daily reality of people, mostly women, who live in abusive relationships.

In today’s episode of The Salience Podcast, we explore more of the tough topics of surviving workplaces with a deep dive into office politics. Our guest is bestselling author Niven Postma. Niven is an expert in organisational politics and the author of “If you don’t do politics, politics will do you – A guide to navigating office politics ethically and successfully”. She is a visiting lecturer at Henley Business School and a Harvard Business Review Contributor, and has had a wide and varied executive career across multiple organisations and sectors.In today’s conversation, Niven draws on her experiences and offers some practical tips for dealing with office politics.

In this episode of The Salience Podcast we explore risk and culture and consider what we can all learn from the avalanche forecast industry.Our guest today is Drew Hardesty. Drew has over 20 years experience as a backcountry avalanche forecaster at the Utah Avalanche Center, and 15 years experience as a Climbing Ranger in Grand Teton National Park. Drew is widely regarded as a thought leader in the industry and his philosophical musings in his newsletter Life, Not After Death, But Before are relevant to anyone who is interested in culture, risk and living life to the fullest.

In this episode, we discuss Culture Studies as a topic.We speak with researcher and visual artist, Nurul Huda Rashid who is currently pursuing her PhD in Cultural Studies in Asia at the National University of Singapore.Nurul’s research explores the role of algorithms in the study of Muslim women images. Her current project, Women in War, is a survey of images of women in war, critiqued through lenses of gender and violence, politics of the visual, and the roles of the algorithm and archive as methods. So we will be getting a double feature on this episode as we also venture into the burgeoning space of Generative AI. Nurul analyses how images of culture are produced, consumed and made through aspects of image reproduction, automation, computerisation, annotation, and articulationWe will discuss how culture, technology and AI can be understood together. We will get into juicy questions like “Does AI have a culture?“, and “How can we build more ethical AI?“.

On This episode of the Salience Podcast, we explore the relationships between culture and change and the importance of curiosity. We speak with our good friend Nina Bressler, Global Head of Societal Learning at Novartis. Nina leads an aspirational program to help Novartis achieve their vision of Reimagining Medicine. Nina’s focus is to deliver sustainable learning outside the company, by supporting key partners and networks to build skills that strengthen the healthcare system and improve health outcomes. At the heart of her work is a purpose to help people thrive. She believes that curiosity unleashes people, teams, organisations, and their potential. Nina has honed her ability to navigate complexity through leading transformation. She evolved her focus from processes to people, from systems to culture, and from solving for the complicated through controls to being comfortable with the ambiguity of complexity, and even thriving in emergent and transformative environments that challenge her creativity and call upon her to bring her most innovative self to the solution.

In this episode of The Salience Podcast we explore the impact of culture on domestic and family violence, and what men can do to change culture. In Australia, around 1 in 3 women and 1 in 10 men have experienced physical and/or sexual violence, and a woman is murdered by her partner or former partner roughly every week. These sobering statistics are not unique to Australia. Gender-based violence is a global problem. It’s a problem that mainly affects women and LGBTIQ+ communities. Whilst men are sometimes victims, the solution has to come from a culture change led by men.To that end, my guest today is Allan Ball. Allan is a Director of White Ribbon. White Ribbon Australia is part of a global social movement working to eliminate gendered violence. Allan has previously worked for the National Disability Insurance Agency (NDIA), and before that, he worked as a mental health clinician in forensic Child and Adolescent Health Services, Local Government and in Not-For-Profit organisations.Over the last decade, Allan has gained invaluable experience in frontline service delivery to assist women and children experiencing domestic and family violence.

On this episode, we speak to David Lee, a global change and business transformation executive and advisor with over 25 years of experience in leading change in organisations ranging from start-ups to Fortune 500 to the public sector. He is currently a managing consultant and lead trainer at Prosci Singapore, a leading provider of expertise and capacity building in change management. David has engaged in organisational change as an executive sponsor, adviser, and instructor for a wide range of organisations including American Express, the Development Bank of Singapore, Chanel, Techcombank and Aboitiz Equity Ventures among others.David started his career in the travel industry - an industry that has gone through multiple value chain and technological disruptions, and has led several transformative responses. We discuss culture, leadership and change management.

This week on the Salience Podcast, we discuss the issues with industrialised healthcare’s culture of control, and how we can move from a more pathogenic culture of seeking to “control” chronic diseases, to one that recognises the variability of patient lives, and encourages salutogenesis - or, the sense of coherence that patients can seek by cultivating their ability to understand their own condition, manage and respond appropriately, and to also create meaning around their experience.Our guest is Riva Greenberg. Riva is an internationally recognised diabetes educator who provides education and advocacy on living with Type 1 diabetes. In 2015, she was awarded a distinguished lecture award from the International Diabetes Federation, and she continues to speak at the federation’s annual conference on her “Flourishing approach to diabetes”. She has written three books and contributes to the HuffPost on the topic, and is committed to helping others live an exceptional life, not despite having diabetes but because of it.As of 2022, she has lived with Type 1 Diabetes for 50 years and has just received her Joslin award. She continues to act as an influencer and Ambassador for Type 1, and advises industry, healthcare professionals and patients.

In this episode of The Salience Podcast, we tackle the subject of culture and domestic violence, especially the challenge of managing exit risk. Our guest is Stella Avramopoulos. Stella is the CEO of Good Shepherd, a not-for-profit focused on tackling the significant issues impacting women, girls and families. And one of the biggest issues is domestic and family violence. Tune in to hear Stella talk about the importance of gender equity and overcoming systemic disadvantage, on weak signals for domestic and family abuse, such as financial control, and the importance of careful planning and support for women and children attempting to escape family violence situations. Culture, domestic violence, and managing exit risk.

In this episode of The Salience Podcast, we explore the culture of learning, being overly busy, and what to do about it.Our guest on The Salience Podcast today is Diana Renner. Diana is a writer and leadership consultant based in Melbourne.Her first book Not Knowing: the art of turning uncertainty into opportunity was published in 2014 and won the U.K. Management Book of the Year award in 2015.Her second book, Not Doing: the art of effortless action, was published in 2018. So listen in to hear about the concept of not, and step back and consider your year ahead.

This week on The Salience Podcast we explore organizational culture with our guest Jessie Xia.Jessie is the Global Chief Information Officer of Thoughtworks, a global technology company with over 50 offices in 18 countries. Thoughtworks has been internationally recognised as one of the “Great places to work”, and we discuss how the organization has managed its culture as it has scaled. We discuss the benefits, as well as challenges of having a strong culture.Jessie has been with Thoughtworks for 17 years, starting off as hire no.7 in its China office. She moved to Singapore in 2016 to support Thoughtwork’s setup of its Southeast Asia operations. And is now its new Global CIO. She is a full council member at SG Tech, Singapore's leading trade association for its technology industry as a Councillor, and also actively supports DEI initiatives for Women in Tech. Tune in to discover Jessie’s experiences pivoting across different parts of the business, and into lateral roles, and how she currently applies strategic management of ambiguity to manage an international team of 500… we discuss how it is critical to recognise and manage uncertainty that is within our control, and where we need to be ready for uncertainty that is a part of navigating the complexities of organizational innovation.

In this episode on The Salience Podcast we do a deep dive into culture and child sexual abuse in institutions. Our guest for episode 3 is Jacqui Allen. Jacquie is a lawyer by training, and for the past decade or so has been working in various government organisations supporting people and culture. As part of Jaqui’s work, she has led investigations into misconduct and sexual abuse.In today’s discussion, we explore the concept of weak signals, culture and child safety, and we unpack a little of how Jaqui thinks and shields herself from vicarious trauma.

On this episode of The Salience Podcast Ian Snape and Jeff Montgomery explore the impact of culture on safety. Jeff has a distinguished career as a US Navy pilot, with 30 years of leadership, team building, and management experience in aviation. He completed 5 active deployments involving combat in the middle east and is just transitioning from being a test pilot to flying for a medical life flight organization. In addition to a career in aviation, Jeff is a passionate backcountry skier and he teaches and presents on avalanche safety. Much of Jeff’s career and recreational time is spent in complex high-risk settings. Tune in to discover Jeff’s secret to staying alive in high-risk situations…and here’s a clue, they are attributes he learned from his mother while growing up under the guidance of a resilient single parent.

The first season of The Salience Podcast explored various aspects of resilience, from managing risk, to hosting effective online meetings, and even learning about how to manage chronic pain from folks that enjoy spanky time. For the next season, we explore culture, especially how culture influences relationships, for good and bad. To explore these topics, we are heading into conversations with people who have successfully navigated some challenging cross-cultural differences, such as national differences, and at the extremes, we will be talking with people that have escaped religious cults, domestic violence, or toxic companies or managers. One of the most important aspects of creating a quality culture involves diversity, so Ian is joined by Zhen Goh, from our Singapore Office to co-host the next season of The Salience Podcast. In Episode 1 of Season 2, Ian and Zhen share their own experiences of culture and how that guides where their attention is in the world.

Our guest today on The Salience Podcast is Daniel Moore. Dan is a holistic osteopath and coach who is currently exploring what we can learn about reframing chronic pain from folks that like spanky time! Dan is one of the people we featured in Resilience by Design for a super simple and effective technique he developed for reducing states like stress and anxiety. The solar panel is one of the most popular techniques we use, alongside box breathing and quitting crappy jobs to find sustainable purpose. Dan recently completed a Master's degree in pain…and is now researching masochism - people that enjoy pain, to provide insights and practical ways to help those who are suffering from chronic or persistent pain.

Our guest today on The Salience Podcast is Anthea Fisher. Anthea’s resume reads like an adventure novel. Her experiences range from Mountain Rescue in New Zealand to planning and logistics coordination for humanitarian services in Africa and remote islands in the Pacific. Anthea survived an avalanche at Everest Base camp, and led one of the most difficult, complex and ultimately tragic rescue missions to remote mountains in Antarctica. Anthea has a remarkable depth of experience in resilience, recovery from set back, and leadership at the frontiers of human endeavour. In today’s discussion, we explore how Anthea uses different perceptual filters to tune into her needs to rest and recover, to step back and manage a crisis with clarity, and to connect and have empathy with others.

Our guest this week on The Salience Podcast is Judy Rees. Judy was named as a ‘Top 100 influencer in Remote Working’ in 2020 by Onalytica. With Steve McCann, she is the co-founder of ReesMcCann, a boutique training company specialising on making online gatherings better than in–the-room. Judy has written several books on the use of metaphor for change at work and throughout life. Listen in to Judy on The Salience Podcast to learn how she tracks symbols and metaphors in online meetings…like turning screens off or hand gestures, as we unpack how Judy creates engaging online gatherings.

Our guest this week on The Salience Podcast is Steve McCrone. Steve is co-founder of AGLX, a boutique management consultancy with a focus on adaptive strategy. Steve's approach is grounded in some fascinating life experiences, in this case, in a previous life, Steve was a bomb disposal expert. Adaptive strategy applies in many ways: It can be used for the way we lead our lives, or as guidance for small teams and start-ups, or even whole organisations. Listen in to learn from Steve how to balance having fun with deadly serious, how collective resilience is about both people and systems, and how filtering in the now can create the capacity to adapt.

Our guest today on The Salience Podcast is Kristy Hitchens. Kristy is the Founder and Chair of The Pink Belt Project, an Australian registered charity that aims to empower women in need by connecting them with the martial arts. Pink Belt is a peak body for women involved in martial arts and an authority on martial arts for violence prevention and recovery. Domestic violence affects both men and women, although it is a far bigger issue for women. A woman is murdered every few days in Australia by their partner or former partner. And we are a country of less than 26 million people. In addition, around 1 in 3 women have experienced violence since the age of 15. So clearly there is a need to both prevent domestic violence and help people, mainly women, recover from domestic violence. You can find out more about The Pink Belt project at https://www.pinkbelt.com.au/

Our guest today on The Salience Podcast is Dr Caitlin Walker. Caitlin is the author of From Contempt to Curiosity: Creating the Conditions for Groups to Collaborate Using Clean Language and Systemic Modelling. Caitlin also recently graduated with her PhD in CLEAN LANGUAGE INTERVIEWING, CURRICULUM DESIGN IS LIKE WHAT? With application to HIGHER EDUCATION. Caitlin is also the founding director of Training Attention, a niche change company based in the UK that uses clean language. At Frontline Mind, we have used Caitlin's work through From Contempt to Curiosity, and Ian has worked with Caitlin and her team in the past. If you would like to find out more about Caitlin's work, visit https://cleanlearning.co.uk/about/detail/caitlin-walker

Our guest in this episode of The Salience Podcast is Brian Rivera. He’s a former top gun pilot, co-author of The Flow System: The Evolution of Agile and Lean Thinking in an Age of Complexity and Co-founder and CEO AGLX North America. Brian’s work with the Flow Consortium offers an important contribution for leaders and organisations looking to innovate and step up into the high-performance realm. You can find out more about Brian's work at https://www.aglx.com/

Usually, in The Salience Podcast, we interview authors or amazing people that inspired us while we were writing Resilience by Design. The podcast was conceived as a way to explore people and their ideas in more depth than we could cover in the book. This episode is something of an exception… and somewhat to our embarrassment, we have to admit that we missed Staffan’s important contribution to resilience when we did our research. Somehow, we managed to miss THE most published book on how to be productive. Monotasking: How to Focus Your Mind, Be More Productive, and Improve Your Brain Health has lots of practical techniques to improve how we can manage our attention. The quality of the ideas and the layout explain how the book has sold a staggering 750,000 copies. If you enjoyed learning about the distinctions between creative mode and task mode in our book, monotasking takes the ideas further, so please enjoy my conversation with Staffan Nöteberg about Monotasking. You can find more about Staffan and his work at https://staffannoteberg.com/

This week's guest is Dr Jeffrey Funk. Jeffrey is a consultant and academic whose career is focused on the emergence and uptake of technology. Jeffrey is a best-selling author on technology and has taught at several prestigious universities including 9 years at the National University of Singapore. Jeffrey’s teaching, publishing, consulting and blogging aim to help individuals and companies navigate the hype and nonsense of tech startups. Running with the theme of Salience, what cuts through the noise of all the hype? Follow Jeffrey on Twitter @jeffreyleefunk

This week's guest on the Salience Podcast is Nick Littlehales, author of the best-selling book “Sleep”. The danger of talking too much about sleep is we may end up feeling, well, sleepy! Despite the cunning title of Nick’s book, his book is very engaging and provides a number of super practical tips. Nick is much more than an academic author; he is the sleep coach to many sports teams and elite athletes. Listen to the interview with Nick that describes how to have micro-rests even when you're still walking around, and how the choices we make from the moment we wake up will have an impact on how we sleep. You can find out more about Nick at https://sportsleepcoach.com/

Episode 2 of The Salience Podcast features Greg Layton. Greg is the bestselling author of Chief Maker and is the CEO of a company of the same name. Greg has a really tight niche in the talent development market focussing on helping people in organisations who are perhaps under the most pressure - the Senior Managers or General Managers who I describe as the meat in the sandwich. They have to deal with pressure from the Chiefs above, and staff and other managers below, and breaking into the C-suite is tough. And once they get there, my experience is that the Chief role can offer some very unexpected challenges. Find out more about Chief Maker at https://www.chiefmaker.com/

Our guest today on The Salience Podcast is Michele Wucker. Michele is the international bestselling author of Gray Rhino. A “grey rhino” is a metaphor for a highly probable, high impact yet neglected threat. Whereas the elephant in the room is the big obvious problem that everyone avoids talking about, and the black swan is an improbable and unforeseeable extreme event; Ignore a charging rhino at your peril! Find out more about Michele and her work by visiting her website, https://www.wucker.com/

Hear from Frontline Mind founder Dr Ian Snape as he introduces The Salience Podcast, and outlines what you the listener might expect from this Podcast series.